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Guest single_xlOl Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 So — been using this thing for about six months now and it's stuck on my phone, reckon I'd say something since a mate asked me the other day. I'm in the UK, mostly do football and horses, nothing mad, just so you know where I'm coming from. How I found it was actually a bit daft — I never could figure out what an e/w payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I'd wing it and then be surprised. Now I stick my stake in before every slip, even the boring singles. Their single bet calculator is the one I open most — type in your stake, the odds and it shows returns straight away, either odds format. Same tool covers the multiples — trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, and that's where I always mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at treble betting calculator and it's free with no account nonsense. What actually changed how I bet was the more serious tools. They've got an probability converter and it makes obvious how much the bookie's taking, and a kelly staking calculator — I use half kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one is decent for when I'm splitting a race. It's not perfect mind. The layout feels very functional, let's say — no flash, which honestly I don't mind but some will. On mobile it's usable though the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. Also there's no app, it's a website and that's it — fine by me but worth saying. Anyway. Free, not plastered in adverts, works. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, have a look — it's saved me a load of arguments with the bookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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