davidsign Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Should everybody's vote count equally? There are some idiots out there (me?). Should everybody be able to influence our govt./elections equally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPea Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hi davidsign You raise an interesting point. I heard a discussion recently about a similar matter, the very real issue of whether people with Alzheimer's disease should be allowed to vote. Maybe, maybe not, but who would be the one to decide who is qualified, or what weight their vote should carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I think he means in that when we, as a nation, cast our votes, those votes should be counted for what they are, a popular vote. Right now we have an electoral vote that causes problems. Take a look at the 2000 election in which Al Gore won the popular vote, but because of Bush's having influence in Florida, he was able to scheme and win because of the electoral vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsign Posted October 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Clarification: for this topic, I was asking whether or not every person should be allowed to vote. I started another topic about the electoral college system to address the "counting" of the votes. First, we must decide if everyone should have the right to vote. I think the answer is clearly "no." We already restrict minors, criminals, and non-citizens from voting. So, how do we determine who gets to vote? (as Sweetpea asked). I've my own ideas, but I'd like to hear yours. I'll write more when I have more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 If you start restricting votes based on whatever factors, where does it stop? Let's say we eliminate all the dumb people from voting. So now everyone with an IQ below 50 can't vote. We've already got the minors and criminals taken care of. Perhaps now, going along with the dumb factor (and no disrespect to those that I will mention, they're just examples), we can say that since the majority of people in Arkansas, Alabama, Texas, and Rhode Island are all dumb, we might as well just not count anyone from that state. Then we could say that inner city kids (mostly black youths) who can't get proper education are also dumb, so we might as well not let any black people vote either. And then we could say that Muslims believe in this whole Jihad business which is obviously stupid, so we might as well eliminate them. Eventually you need up with a nice totalitarian state where the upper class thinks that they live in a democracy and vote for their leader and keep in place this whole business of suppression of rights. Remember, Hitler was voted in as Chancellor by the people, he didn't steal the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeefer_11 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Everyone should have the right to vote no matter if there 80 or are retarted or stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdean Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Leave it as it is. No vote for minors, criminals, and non-citizens. Changing it will get us into a mess like the electoral college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conflicted Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 All AMERICANS should have the right to vote andI mean full fledged Americans meaning being born here and not some stupid border crossing wannabe American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I think everyone should be allowed to vote so long as they are going to make intelligent voting decisions. (ie, not for Bush). nah, seriously, even those who make that mistake should be allowed to vote, because otherwise it would be a form of prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conflicted Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Prejiduce has nothing to do with it it isn't all that hard to get a green card or heaven forbid not cross the border illegally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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