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So — been using this thing for maybe six months now and it's basically bookmarked at this point, reckon I'd say something since someone asked me last week. I'm UK based, mostly stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, just so you know where I'm coming from.

The reason I started using it was actually a bit daft — I could never figure out what an e/w payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. Now type the odds in before every slip, even the boring singles.

The single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — you put in stake and odds and it shows returns straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn't matter. Same tool covers the multiples — trebles returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, which is where most people I know mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it's here vig calc — free, no signup.

The thing that genuinely shifted things for me is the more serious bits. They've got an odds-to-probability calculator and it makes obvious how much the bookie's taking, and there's the kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutching one gets used a fair bit for when I'm spreading across selections.

Couple of gripes. The interface is a bit basic — zero frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On my phone it works but the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. There's nothing on the app store, it's a website and that's it — fine by me but you asked.

Anyway. Free, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. If anyone still does the maths on paper, give it a go — saves me a load of "wait, that's it?" moments.

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[Guest single_hqmr]

OK — have been messing about with this thing for something like four months now and I keep coming back, so figured I'd write something up since someone asked me last week. I'm based in the UK, mainly do football and horses, nothing mad, just so you know where I'm coming from.

What got me on it was actually a bit daft — I never could get my head round what an each way return would be once you get five places instead of three. I'd just eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. These days I punch the numbers in first, every time, even a simple single bet.

The single bet calculator tool is the one I'm on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. It also handles the fiddly ones — trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, which is where I'd always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it lives at each way odds — free, no signup.

The thing that really made a difference was the geekier extras. They've got an probability thing that shows what margin's baked in, plus a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit when I'm splitting a race.

It's not perfect mind. The layout looks a bit basic — not much flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it's fine but the lucky 63 breakdown are a squeeze. And no proper app, it's a website and that's it — doesn't bother me but worth saying.

Right, that's me. Free, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. If you even now adds it up in their head, try it — saved me a fair few "wait, that's it?" moments.